Is Coffee Getting More Pretentious — or Just Better?

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The latest Grub Street Podcast is all about coffee: Are third-wave pioneers like La Colombe and Stumptown old news, and, if so, what’s next? To find out, Adam Platt and editor Alan Sytsma dropped by Bushwick’s two-month-old café and roastery Supercrown Coffee Roasters, one of Grub Street’s picks for best places for coffee in New York. To figure out what’s what, they sat down with Supercrown owners Philip Hoffman and Darleen Scherer to talk about her role in New York’s coffee scene, their rocket-scientist-designed pour-over machine, and why better coffee isn’t just about geeking out.

The Grub Street Podcast is produced by the Slate Group’s Panoply, and you can also listen via iTunes (or your phone) and directly in SoundCloud.